Spaulding wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Your last sentence is just plain fucking dumb and every possible data point we know supports it being just plain fucking dumb. It’s not worth mincing words about at this point.
Who am I being irresponsible toward or with and how? The vaccinated are vaccinated and are protected. There is no need for them to fear anybody. Statistically at my age and a person in my health condition should be okay even if I had COVID. Some unvaccinated people probably had COVID and don’t need the vaccination. I may or may not be one of them. I should have freedom to exist and I should have a choice especially in light of all the shady shit that has gone on this past year. I think this is important. Why do you trust any of this? I don’t think this is about health anymore and I don’t think it has been for a long time.
2 weeks to flatten the curve, 100 days, but there will be another pandemic, they are already guaranteeing that.
I’ll address this full post, since you and others here seem to conflate some things regarding COVID.
I don’t think my COVID stance is that radical. Nor do I think it’s anti-libertarian. It seems pretty straightforward to me really.
- The vaccine is good for you. You should get it. Every possible data evaluation we have says it is beneficial to you and to those around you if you get the vaccine. This is not media and government saying this. This is doctors and scientists and data crunchers saying this. Roughly 95%+ of researchers who have looked into this have come to the same conclusion. The very few who haven’t have almost always been quickly found to be paid by outside interests.
- Masks are dumb. They shouldn’t be worn. It’s especially harmful and disturbing to have kids wearing them while outside playing with others. There’s significant research that suggests it stunts their social development and they are not at any significant COVID risk.
- Related to that point, schools should do everything they can to be open and encourage in person schooling and learning.
- Any government mandate of a vaccine on any level should be argued against. I don’t think it’s right or ethical to mandate any vaccine, even one as clearly beneficial as I believe this COVID one has proven to be.
- Related to the above point, nobody should feel like they have to take the vaccine. I still believe in freedom of choices as you said and this is a choice and should remain one. That said, if you feel “pressure” to get the vaccine because guys like me are spelling out the numerous ways you’re being ignorant for refusing it, I consider that a good thing.
- Vaccine “passports” should be judged on a case by case basis. Every business should clearly have the right to refuse anyone they want, especially if they believe it’s jeopardizing the health of their other customers. If you don’t like it, you have an easy solution, don’t patronize that business anymore. If you can’t enter the city of Chicago as a citizen without a vaccine, that’s a big fucking problem and it’s pitchfork time. If you can’t enter a Chili’s for the same reason, tough shit, eat somewhere else.
I think that basically covers it. Hope it helps clarify things so you don’t mistakenly think I’m telling you to mask up everywhere again.