Got one!

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That sounds like grounds for revocation of her Canadian citizenship, too.

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When I was a kid I thought the Quaker was a crazy looking old lady.

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Uncle Ben always seemed kinda dignified...Ain't Jemima, not so much.

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Agree, I always thought he’d make a cool uncle, although I’d leave the cooking to his wife.

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Uncle Ben was a servant/House Nigg*r and he was dressed like one until recently. He wasn't affectionately called "Uncle" either.

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At the Lexington horse sales the guys that handled the horses in the sales ring were always black guys who were dressed like that. I found it a little strange to say the least.

I think they may have done away with those outfits. The link is the only picture I could find:

http://www.tattersallsredmile.com/tsall ... index.html

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Fair enough.

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I honestly never knew this or even thought about it.

Never too old to learn something.

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Cream of Wheat

The Onion willed this into being five days ago with Quaker Oats Replaces Historically Racist Aunt Jemima Mascot With Black Female Lawyer Who Enjoys Pancakes Sometimes

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Yep, they even removed the lady from Land O Lakes.

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Sheila.

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I might take from heat for this.

I am 34 years old. I am white. I grew up in a household that commonly had Uncle Ben rice products and Aunt Jemima syrup. Quickly prepared meals were common for all meals. My mom didn't really cook. I have never associated either brand's characters with slavery in any way. Maybe if I had seen the 1970's Aunt Jemima artwork it would have been different.

Shouldn't it have been seen as some sort of progress that two characters that were clearly based off of slavery period stereotypes, including the negative connotations associated with the words aunt and uncle, were not apparent to this generation's kids and young adults? No one in 2020 was walking down those aisles in the grocery store and pointing out the slave brand. It was a black woman. It was a black man. The stereotypes they were built from were overridden over the years. Striking Aunt Jemima from the products seems the opposite of "having a conversation." You learn from your mistakes by changing... not from erasing bad memories or mistakes from the history books.

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I think there are far more important things to focus on than brand names or characters. That doesn't change what they represent. I'm still a little wet behind the ears and I've learned that older black folks like RR and LTG and people a lot older than them have have an entirely different view on this and a whole host of other issues. I respect their opinions. THIS brand change IS progress to them.

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Just because you don't know the history, doesn't mean the symbolism disappears. Sorta like the confederate flag. Or growing up not knowing the N word is offensive.

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This thread reminds me of a story from about 15-20 years ago, and my wife was really into "antiques" at the time, all kinds of old shit she would bring home from these flea markets and thrift shops, so much shit. I really hated it, but she had our kitchen all decorated with this vintage stuff, old signs and decorations she would find. One day I came home and she had gone to a flea market with a friend and she had bought another box full of these vintage advertisements and signs. She starts pulling them out and setting them up here and there, and I notice one of them was an old metal sign for "Uncle Remus" brand syrup. It had a rendering of an happy, old, gray-bearded black gentleman holding a tin of Uncle Remus' syrup, surrounded by the quote "'Dis sho' am good!". I took a look at her and was like WTF, you cant display that in our kitchen! She was confused at first, at that moment to her it was just some vintage advertisement tin sign she bought in a box. I had to literally read it to her and ask her how some of our friends that visit our home might feel about that. Then it was like a light bulb went off over her head and she put 2 + 2 together, and she was like "yeah, that is a bit offensive isn't it?" and I was like "uhhhh...you think maybe"? and we chucked it. I was really glad when she got over that "vintage" phase.

It has a 'sweeping it under the rug' feel to me.

We're a small step away from 'no black characters on any products' as any small feature in the drawing, the way it is used in commercials, a seemingly harmless sentence from the backstory...anything could be a potential catalyst for social issues. They'll have no choice but to whitewash it all. WASP mascots incoming.



Except it does though. If no one of a certain age has the information, and everyone that had the information dies, you're left with a 100% agreed upon and accepted innocence.

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this was the sign:

Big hands

the only solution is for everything to be packaged like this

Not having historically offensive imagery or names shouldn't be too hard in 2020. The overwhelming majority of institutions and companies have been able to pull that off.

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i'm in agreement...I can't believe Aunt Jemima lasted this long

Poor footballteamgreg

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I agree, but please don't go back and re-dub Droopy's friend Butch's Irish brogue. That was awesome. "Droopy, me pal!"

I know you are. It lasted because most people just didn't care enough or understand it.

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