Feels like the Casey Anthony trial, 'cept with the opposite outcome.

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There's just so much wrong with having such a knee-jerk thought process like that. So much.

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"Cowabunga? Cowa fucking piece of dog shit! This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick!"

Every sinlge person should have asked to be excused when the "can you be impartial" question was asked.....or at some point during the trial when they realized that they didn't know what words mean...

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Yeah....

yikes

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I'm not so much a fan of the "if it walks like a duck" argument when it comes to the justice system. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to have undeniable proof in my world.

There was no way that anyone could have been impartial. Every single person has heard about this case for 3 years and whether they admit it or not they carried their bias with them.

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I don't believe that. I truely think I can go into a trial like this and be completely impartial. I think a lot of people could.

Based on what I heard, I couldn't convict the guy and I hate his guts.

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Hell I actively tried to ignore all of the Drew Peterson "news" & I still couldn't think anything other than "he's an ass, he probably did it, but I still don't see any evidence that can really convict him. Unless the hearsay rules as I learned them have been dramatically changed.".

(Special shout out to the corrupt/incompetent Will Co. coroner's office of a few yrs back too! )

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Maybe.

I'd like to think I could as well but I'll never know.

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But you didn't hear it all unless you were there. Give the people a little credit. They had to sit there and take each piece of information they were given. There is no way we could have heard all that was said, who said it, how believable it was when they said it. It would be interesting if it were on tv and we could watch it ourselves, but it wasn't that way. TV, newspapers and blogs couldn't catch every detail if they tried.

I think the moral of this story is to never say the phrase "I'll kill you" to anybody, no matter the circumstance.

Kudos to the jury for sending this fuck head to prison.

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There is no knee jerk reaction..I am actually pretty open minded...I don't even follow this depressing crap and it is virtually impossible to avoid it..both are extremely guilty..but the system blows and in many cases the guilty walk from heinous crimes.

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How about the phrase: "does it come with pancakes?"

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

....or kill the guy that turned down your $25K offer, because you just never know?

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Yep.

Leave no loose ends.

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You seem like an intelligent guy...do you believe Casey Anthony killed that kid?

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I am actually pretty open minded...quote]

Yet you called for an end to the judicial system as we know it.

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I do think she killed her kid player.

But I don't know if the government proved it.

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That only strengthens my point...I am willing to deviate from a plan when it is not working..that is being open minded...the system blows.

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Not that I'm a "professional juror" (dumbest fucking thought I've read around here in some time, btw - even considering the source), but from my one time as juror (and foreman, fwiw), I understand that exact statement so much more than before I served.

Cool story bro', and long story short, we sat in on a statutory rape trial (not as grisly as that sounds ... I think the guy was 19 and she was 16). Anyway, from moment one I assume this would be a 2' putt for the prosecution, but by the time it was over, I/we ultimately felt that the prosecution did a really piss-poor job at eliminating reasonable doubt about a number of points the judge instructed us on. Anyway, 12-0 not guilty.

Next day in the papers two things happen .... (a) we get torched for letting such an obvious dickbag off scot-free, and (b) we find out that the kid - whose defense lawyer must've done Herculean work on prepping this kid - had all the societal value of Polio, and had quite a history of being a fuckstick in many & various ways. None of that - not one whit - was allowed in the trial, and while I voted not guilty figuring the kid was probably guilty, I was quite convinced of it after reading a few newspaper paragraphs about him.

The point? The jurors can only rule what is set before them. AND, they can only rule on the points set before them by the presiding judge. I don't know if we'll ever get to read those jury instructions .... would that change an observer's take? It's possible. Point is, it's "obvious" to the rest of us, just like it's "obvious" what the puzzle is on Wheel of Fortune .... unless you're actually there, it's difficult to actually ascertain the situation as it really is.

Not trying to shit on the opinions, just sharing my story of why I'm not first to the line with most of you saying this is clearly a bullshit outcome, etc. I don't know that I ultimately agree with the outcome, but I just respectfully highlight the fact that what we see may have little resemblance to what they see - good, bad, or indifferent.

Anyway, I'll be glad to continue to see this guy and his dopey kid on Storage Wars on A&E.

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Don, I'm with you.

Served locally on a trial of a guy who was in the local paper repeadedly for an offense and I went in with an open mind. States attorney made such a poor case (maybe that's why he won't get re-elected) that I had to vote not guilty. People hated the decision in the press because it was an easy case to prosecute in the newspaper. But you have to juor? based on the judge's requirements.

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Dumbest opinion you have ever read? whatever man...I have read a half dozen convincing arguments to why there should be paid professionals and not your average joe, who knows very little how the justice system works for the most part ..people who have jobs and families and a life will find any excuse to not show up to jury duty...so what you are left with is the bottom rung of society..and how hard is it to convince one of them of reasonable doubt ? not very hard.

A states atty making 35 k a year and a caseload as thick as a phone book is at a huge disadvantage against a private atty who takes on as many/few cases as he/she can handle. And in your case that should not have even gone to court..who cares if a 19 and 16 year old has sex..as long as it is consensual...Most Americans watch too much t.v. and think that physical evidence and DNA is a must for a conviction..like I said the system is extremely flawed and that is why crime is rampant..there are hundreds of thousands of criminals walking around that beat cases that they should not have.

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ah. So Don Tiny and I? We be the bottom rung of society. Gotcha.

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Not you..but Tiny? yeah

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I've met Tiny. He wouldn't volunteer this but he is the smartest man I have ever met on this board. I'm not just dropping that for the convenience of this discussion. It's quite true. Easily the smartest man I've ever met in Geneva, at least.

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What did you get paid for your Jury duty? 16$ a day? ...so you are losing money from missing work and get paid chump change to sit through that nonsense..how many people do you think are willing to do that?

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