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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:15 am 
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I don't love the guy by any stretch but to flush one of your best assets down the toilet? Not good.

Oh yeah, but at the time you didnt know. Davidson was a prospect.

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I had a gitchy feeling about it at the time. I think Hahn fell in love with Davidson for some damn reason, AZ didn't really want to deal him, but counter-offered a crazy price and Hahn said OK.

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The worst part about the bad Sox bullpen is that they won't be able to flip any of these guys for prospects at the deadline.

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I wouldn't be surprised if July 18th passes and Rodon isn't signed. Why would Rodon want to join a sinking ship? I wouldn't trust my career with the Sox minor league instruction or a washed up alcholoic Don Cooper. Boras likely is whispering in his ear to re-enter next year and join a professional franchise instead of the mickey mouse operatoin on the south side.


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That scenario is not gonna happen. JR refusing to give in to Boras I could see, however.

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Hatchetman wrote:
That scenario is not gonna happen. JR refusing to give in to Boras I could see, however.


It should be interesting. Hahn's strategy was to sign all of the other picks first so that there was no wiggle room with the amount they could offer Rodon. This was a ballsy move considering Boras represented Appel who was in a similar situation a few years ago and decided to go back to school.

In the end, I think Rodon does sign. But it will be on the last possible day which will more than likely mean Rodon will not see the big leagues this season.


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We had a special punishment room back at catholic school called The Wiggle Room.

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In reality Hahn has plenty of wiggle room as he could promise to bring up Rodon within a certain timeframe, the value of which would far outweigh the million or so they are quibbling over. Maybe that's what Boras is fighting for.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I don't love the guy by any stretch but to flush one of your best assets down the toilet? Not good.

Oh yeah, but at the time you didnt know. Davidson was a prospect.

That's the way it goes


The problem was that unlike the members of CSFMB, Hahn doesn't have a genius like good dolphin telling him that Gillaspie was going to be a star.

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Appel was drafted 8th. Rodon was drafted 3rd. How much is he going to improve his situation by going back to college? The highest paid guy in this year's draft got $6.5M. I hear the Sox offer is $6M. Even Bora$ isn't greedy and dumb enough to send him back to college over $500k. He'll sign.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
Appel was drafted 8th. Rodon was drafted 3rd. How much is he going to improve his situation by going back to college? The highest paid guy in this year's draft got $6.5M. I hear the Sox offer is $6M. Even Bora$ isn't greedy and dumb enough to send him back to college over $500k. He'll sign.


I agree with keyser but I think Boras is holding out for $6,582,585 which is the max the Sox can offer with only a financial penalty. I am sure the Sox offer is the $6,107,100 that they can pay witout ANY penalty.

Boras wants Jerry to pay for HIS new draft pool limits that went into effect with the new CBA.

That's $475,485 reasons why Buddy Bell said it will go down to the wire when interviewed Saturday.

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I'm sure this is wrong too.

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Saves don't have anything to do with WAR. And some of those blown saves occurred because of bad luck and are not included in FIP. Beyond the pitcher's control.

Is anyone else surprised that JORR posted this?


I'm not surprised at anything JORR says. I'm convinced he doesn't understand half the shit he types.

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I spoke with [White Sox GM Rick Hahn] today. They have definite high interest in Castro. He said they have four untouchable players - Sale, Quintana, Abreu and Garcia. Other than that, they would consider anything. He said they have had some inquiries about Santiago, Reed, Jones, and may consider moving Viciedo.

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So Ground Control was hacked. That's funny. Looks like Hahn inquired about Jason Castro. Not surprised.


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I get you can't miss a shot you don't take. But you can't ask for Dylan Bundy for fucking Bud Norris. :lol:


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Juiced wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Saves don't have anything to do with WAR. And some of those blown saves occurred because of bad luck and are not included in FIP. Beyond the pitcher's control.

Is anyone else surprised that JORR posted this?


I'm not surprised at anything JORR says. I'm convinced he doesn't understand half the shit he types.


You do realize that I am a highly respected member of CSFMB and you are considered one of the board retards, right?

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[Rick Hahn] asked [Luhnow] if Hector Santiago would entice us. JL said that was not enough for Castro. RH came back later in the day and asked if Bourjos (from LAA) would entice us in a Castro context?


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You do realize that I am a highly respected member of CSFMB and you are considered one of the board retards, right?
:lol:

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[Rick Hahn] asked [Luhnow] if Hector Santiago would entice us. JL said that was not enough for Castro. RH came back later in the day and asked if Bourjos (from LAA) would entice us in a Castro context?

Surprised he didn't ask for Sale in exchange.


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Dylan Bundy is gonna get a few GM's fired before he's done


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[Nationals GM Mike] Rizzo called [Luhnow] to inquire on Harrell. JL told him we would still need a headliner like Giolito because we still value Harrell highly. Rizzo did not respond immediately.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Dylan Bundy is gonna get a few GM's fired before he's done

why is that?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juiced wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Saves don't have anything to do with WAR. And some of those blown saves occurred because of bad luck and are not included in FIP. Beyond the pitcher's control.

Is anyone else surprised that JORR posted this?


I'm not surprised at anything JORR says. I'm convinced he doesn't understand half the shit he types.


You do realize that I am a highly respected member of CSFMB and you are considered one of the board retards, right?


They cancel bingo night again?


You do realize that OKC was once a respected member of CSFMB, right?

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Still is a respected member. Or should be.

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You do realize that I am a highly respected member of CSFMB and you are considered one of the board retards, right?
:lol:


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I'm sure this is wrong too.


On this weekends South Side Sox podcast Jim Callis from MLB Pipeline said

"There are three numbers are in play:

1) $5,721,500 is the slot value,

2) $6,107,100 is the amount the White Sox can offer without paying a draft tax.

3) $6,582,585 is the amount they can go up to without losing a 1st round pick, but have to pay the draft tax, of $375,000."

He also said he thinks the Sox do not want to go over $6,104,000 as they have never paid a fine under the new rules.

He also thinks Boras wants Rodon to be the highest paid player drafted which would be higher than the $6,500,000 that number one pick Brady Aieken signed for.

He said he expected Rodon to sign.

He thought he would not go back to college IF he didn't sign he would play independent ball where his innings and appearances could be monitored

This years deadline is July 18th.

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Equal in the loss column with the Cubs. What a rebuild!!!! GM of the Year!


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Man, Hahn is driving some posters on this board into utter madness!

Hahn is the puppet master.


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RFDC wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Dylan Bundy is gonna get a few GM's fired before he's done

why is that?

Huge talent. Early arm problems. Huge range of possibilities. If he does end up traded, one of the GM's is going to lose badly no matter what happens


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