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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:46 am 
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He's whiffed on back to back first round picks.

They've played a combined 4 games. You can make that conclusion, but it's an awful conclusion. Ezekiel Elliott fumbled in crunch time this week. He's essentially a piece of shit bust.


We aren't talking about Elliott. We are talking about Floyd who looks like the second coming of Shea and Kevin White who is a speedster that doesn't have speed.

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We aren't talking about Elliott. We are talking about Floyd who looks like the second coming of Shea and Kevin White who is a speedster that doesn't have speed.

Everybody knows Floyd could use a little muscle, but he has the speed and instincts to rush. Maybe we give him more than 2 games?

White had the speed to turn the corner on a fucking jet sweep reverse that even the Bears snuffed out like the rooster. I haven't exactly seen the offense run plays that can demonstrate White's speed yet.

I can't believe people want to write guys off after two games.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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And your reply makes it look like I said Pace whiffed. I WANT THAT REMOVED FROM THE RECORD!


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We aren't talking about Elliott. We are talking about Floyd who looks like the second coming of Shea and Kevin White who is a speedster that doesn't have speed.

Everybody knows Floyd could use a little muscle, but he has the speed and instincts to rush. Maybe we give him more than 2 games?

White had the speed to turn the corner on a fucking jet sweep reverse that even the Bears snuffed out like the rooster. I haven't exactly seen the offense run plays that can demonstrate White's speed yet.

I can't believe people want to write guys off after two games.


Are you arguing for retooling the offense around a guy prone to soft tissue injuries who isn't even fast by NFL standards?

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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We aren't talking about Elliott. We are talking about Floyd who looks like the second coming of Shea and Kevin White who is a speedster that doesn't have speed.

Everybody knows Floyd could use a little muscle, but he has the speed and instincts to rush. Maybe we give him more than 2 games?

White had the speed to turn the corner on a fucking jet sweep reverse that even the Bears snuffed out like the rooster. I haven't exactly seen the offense run plays that can demonstrate White's speed yet.

I can't believe people want to write guys off after two games.


Are you arguing for retooling the offense around a guy prone to soft tissue injuries who isn't even fast by NFL standards?

I didn't argue for retooling anything. Where did you get that from? All I said is that it's too early to judge what Kevin White is. I didn't say you need to run him as your BBS #1 WR.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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Kevin White has lost all his speed after the injury

Leaonard Floyd is Marc Anderson aka 2007. He is fast, and just runs around the corner, 5 yards past the QB.

Pace sucks.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Kevin White has lost all his speed after the injury

Leaonard Floyd is Marc Anderson aka 2007. He is fast, and just runs around the corner, 5 yards past the QB.

Pace sucks.

Mark Anderson was never known as 2007.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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ChiefWampum wrote:
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Kevin White has lost all his speed after the injury

Leaonard Floyd is Marc Anderson aka 2007. He is fast, and just runs around the corner, 5 yards past the QB.

Pace sucks.

Mark Anderson was never known as 2007.


Stick to licking Ryan Pace's ballsack.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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Caller Bob wrote:
ChiefWampum wrote:
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Kevin White has lost all his speed after the injury

Leaonard Floyd is Marc Anderson aka 2007. He is fast, and just runs around the corner, 5 yards past the QB.

Pace sucks.

Mark Anderson was never known as 2007.


Stick to licking Ryan Pace's ballsack.

At least he knows what an acronym is.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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Maybe next he can learn to blow the fucking snot out of his nose.


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And your reply makes it look like I said Pace whiffed. I WANT THAT REMOVED FROM THE RECORD!


:lol: :lol: I dolphin'd the hell out of that reply. Apologies.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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And your reply makes it look like I said Pace whiffed. I WANT THAT REMOVED FROM THE RECORD!


:lol: :lol: I dolphin'd the hell out of that reply. Apologies.

Haha all good.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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In this QB's first 5 NFL games, he completed 55% of his passes for 1129 yards (226 per game) with 4 TD's and 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 54.1. The rest of Peyton Manning's rookie season wasn't much better, either.

Jeez fellas, while your raised eyebrows at the performance of Pace's draft picks is certainly, unquestionably warranted, let's pump the brakes on the need to slap a definitive label on guys that are only in their second year out of college, one of whom is playing in his first NFL games. This is the kind of thinking that gets Jared Goff labeled a bust before he even plays an NFL snap.


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Jared Goff is a bust.


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White is terrible, he can't run a route. Floyd is already 24 so I don't know what kind of incredible physical development they expect of the guy.


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White is terrible, he can't run a route. Floyd is already 24 so I don't know what kind of incredible physical development they expect of the guy.


This.

White also can't get any yards after the catch. He catches the ball, turns and gets taken down by the feet.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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White is terrible, he can't run a route. Floyd is already 24 so I don't know what kind of incredible physical development they expect of the guy.


This.

White also can't get any yards after the catch. He catches the ball, turns and gets taken down by the feet.


Everything I need to know about Floyd, I live in Atlanta and he played at UGA. UGA fans couldn't tell me what Floyd did.


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Jared Goff is a bust.


I happily labeled him that before he ever took an NFL snap.

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America wrote:
White is terrible, he can't run a route. Floyd is already 24 so I don't know what kind of incredible physical development they expect of the guy.





Agreed

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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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White is terrible, he can't run a route. Floyd is already 24 so I don't know what kind of incredible physical development they expect of the guy.





Agreed

The second worst poster on the board agrees with the worst poster on the board?

Shocking...

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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.


From our eyes and the sideline report at the game.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Pace
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.


From our eyes and the sideline report at the game.

2 games with Jay Cutler as your QB? I think maybe we should pump the brakes on the K.White hate. First year WRs (which White is) are hit or miss with their numbers. Sometimes, it takes a WR one whole season of ups and downs to figure it out. Will Fuller and Deandre Hopkins are rarities of production.

I was never fully comfortable with the Floyd pick because of his age. If we don't see flashes of good play this year, I'm more than worried going forward in his career.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.


From our eyes and the sideline report at the game.

Your eyes told you Kevin White is not as fast now as he was 2 years ago? I don't believe you.

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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.


From our eyes and the sideline report at the game.

Your eyes told you Kevin White is not as fast now as he was 2 years ago? I don't believe you.


I know he ran a fast 40 at the combine. I don't think I ever saw him play a down of football in college.

I know that he was billed as a speed guy that could take the top off of a defense. So far I've seen him run an end around that looked like any other WR in the league and I've seen a few short passes that resulted in little to no YAC. Maybe they aren't using him correctly but right now its a 'meh' from me.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.


From our eyes and the sideline report at the game.

Your eyes told you Kevin White is not as fast now as he was 2 years ago? I don't believe you.


I know he ran a fast 40 at the combine. I don't think I ever saw him play a down of football in college.

I know that he was billed as a speed guy that could take the top off of a defense. So far I've seen him run an end around that looked like any other WR in the league and I've seen a few short passes that resulted in little to no YAC. Maybe they aren't using him correctly but right now its a 'meh' from me.

Just from reading articles on the Internet I found that White is having trouble learning the advanced route trees because WVU's offense was much more simplified. We know from D.Hester's attempts to play WR that if you don't know where the fuck you are going Jay is going to completely ignore you on the field.

The lack of understanding the playbook in year 2 with so much down time on his hands while rehabbing is big red flag for White.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.


From our eyes and the sideline report at the game.

Your eyes told you Kevin White is not as fast now as he was 2 years ago? I don't believe you.


I know he ran a fast 40 at the combine. I don't think I ever saw him play a down of football in college.

I know that he was billed as a speed guy that could take the top off of a defense. So far I've seen him run an end around that looked like any other WR in the league and I've seen a few short passes that resulted in little to no YAC. Maybe they aren't using him correctly but right now its a 'meh' from me.

I agree that he hasn't shown any flashes yet of being worth the draft pick. I just didnt know how someone could specifically point out how he lost speed with just having a sample size of like 6 plays to look at. He seems fast enough to me.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Where are people getting this misguided idea that Kevin White isn't fast still? It's just absurd.


From our eyes and the sideline report at the game.

Your eyes told you Kevin White is not as fast now as he was 2 years ago? I don't believe you.


I know he ran a fast 40 at the combine. I don't think I ever saw him play a down of football in college.

I know that he was billed as a speed guy that could take the top off of a defense. So far I've seen him run an end around that looked like any other WR in the league and I've seen a few short passes that resulted in little to no YAC. Maybe they aren't using him correctly but right now its a 'meh' from me.

I agree that he hasn't shown any flashes yet of being worth the draft pick. I just didnt know how someone could specifically point out how he lost speed with just having a sample size of like 6 plays to look at. He seems fast enough to me.


I was just expecting to see someone that looked noticeably faster than average. I don't see that at all. So maybe saying that he looks "slower" is incorrect. He just looks normal. Not fast or slow. Just like a average sort of NFL WR.

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I remember a certain Saints fan board member trying to warn us about Pace.


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Pace was hired because he came cheap.

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