Many people will not admit this fact. Black voters did not come out for Hillary as they did for Obama. You know why? Because she isn't black. Deal with it.

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You are wrong. It has little to do with race. The fact is that Democrats need a rock star candidate like young Bill Clinton or Barack Obama to win national elections. If they don't have that, they cannot win. This seems stupidly obvious, and yet the Democrat top brass has failed to realize this. Given how bad the democrats played this, I find it hard to believe a Trump administration is much worse than a Democrat administration.

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Yeah, stuff like Trump doing better among Hispanics than Romney did will boggle me until the end of time, but no one was going to equal the sheer turnout among black voters that Obama achieved. The chance to vote for a black candidate with the imprimatur of the ruling class and therefore a real chance to win was something that had never happened before and hardly anyone was going to miss a chance to finally be part of that.

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As for the Democrats and their need for a rockstar candidate, that's kind of a chicken/egg dilemma. Isn't part of the reason they need Obama to win elections is because they make themselves need Obama to win elections? Their strategy has been to put all their eggs in one basket so that the Oval Office/Supreme Court can bail the country out of bad Republican decisions at the state or Congressional level. The whole Obama administration was about building an apparatus that further empowered the president. The Hillary campaign even plundered downballot funds. Great idea until you lose even that and now the bad guys have their hands on the levers you put there.

I have no doubt that Democrats could win statehouse/Congressional races if they put work into it, but they don't. Who represents the back-of-beyond districts of swing states like Wisconsin and North Carolina where civil rights hang in the balance? Who gives a fuck? Not Katy Perry.

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I don't disagree with you, but this isn't really a rebuttal to my post(not saying you intended it to be). The Democrats think they can win national elections with celebrities and tripling down on social causes. It didn't work this year, and it's not a sustainable strategy. George Carlin accurately nailed this decades ago and nothing has changed - "Republicans: the party of bad ideas and Democrats: the party of no ideas"

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

They fell ass-backwards into a guy running on good ideas. They shouldn't have kneecapped him the way they did.

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The fact that he didn't make any progress on half of those issues, and worse, didn't even try, doesn't help their cause going forward.

Edit: nevermind, I realized you were talking about Bernie not Barack.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Wait, are you talking about Obama? I'm talking about Bernie Sanders. I think we are going to make progress on many of his issues, even if it'll feel more like blades of grass poking up through pavement.

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Yeah I'm an idiot and read it wrong the first time.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Good point. That also explains why so many racists came out to vote for Trump.

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When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus. - Turkish Proverb

Historically speaking during the civil rights era the KKK was almost exclusively part of the Democratic party. Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd were both Democrats.

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Bourbon Democrats, moron.

And on the other end of the Democratic party, you have a bunch of old white immigrant guys who can be lovingly called "pinko hawks" - pro-union, populist, anti-corporate, strong defense, "America is the greatest country in the world" guys who don't understand what the fuck is wrong with millennials. They voted for Obama twice, but this time they voted for Trump.

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I don't think that's actually true though. I mean, racists voted for him, but I don't think he got more racists than Romney and McCain. Probably less as the racists certainly couldn't have wanted a black president.

I'm sure when I say this the knee jerk rebuttal from Hillarettes will be something like, "it's all about feeding his ego", which I'm sure is absolutely true and a statement that I agree with, but so what? When you watch Trump with a crowd it's clear that he likes them or at least that he likes being with them. Even when he says something clumsy like "my African-American", he's trying to bond and show that we're in this together. Another rebuttal might be that, "yeah, he's really in the same boat as the minimum wage guy", but again, I'll say, so what? It's politics and politics is all about illusion. Hillary Clinton couldn't even create the illusion that she cared about anyone but herself and the presidency she thought she deserved.

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I agree and to be honest I think a lot of African Americans were let down by Obama. You won't get a lot to go on the record but he was a bit of a disappointment. She didn't do a good job of making the sale but there were a few things which explain lower voter turnout. He wasn't running is one of them but I also think that some felt betrayed by him. I know a number of people that believed that he'd focus on issues related to blacks during his 2nd term. He never really did and I think that led some to stay home.

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The "Obama" voters that stayed home were Berniebros.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

altright is Breitbart?

a very short video (1 minute) of Breitbart himself explaining altright racism.
It's at youtube, called, "Andrew Breitbart: Thug Life #war"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beoZw39SgpY
NSFW (F word)

#hmmmm

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And dead cops.

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