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Starting Monday, calorie counts will have to be posted at thousands of restaurants, grocery stores and movie theaters, representing a milestone change in how the food industry shares information with the American public. The rule, an oft-forgotten provision of Obamacare, is being pushed over the finish line by a Trump nominee, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who says the labeling requirement is simply about transparency.
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The menu labeling rule, which was finalized in 2014 after repeated delays during the Obama administration, applies to chains with 20 or more locations that sell prepared foods similar to what you might get in a restaurant — a definition that applies to everything from appetizers to beer and wine listed by the glass. Businesses are supposed to post calories for each food on their menu right where a consumer will see it as they decide what to order.


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Those are great. Having that information makes it very helpful to make smarter decisions. Just like we want to have ingredient lists on food we should also have nutritional information.

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Dr. Gottlieb is an interesting fellow. They have him on CNBC all the time. He seems like the type of guy that understands the need for reasonable regulation, while helping companies get drugs to market faster.

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It's not just about total calories its about the types of foods you consume, I doubt this will make this fat nation any fitter, but cool I guess.


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Sure give people more information. That really is a potential good tool. I doubt though that many people actually pay any attention to it though.

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Dr. Gottlieb is an interesting fellow. They have him on CNBC all the time. He seems like the type of guy that understands the need for reasonable regulation, while helping companies get drugs to market faster.


He's a pawn and a beta-cuck owned by the pharma lobbyists..but who isn't ?


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Sure give people more information. That really is a potential good tool. I doubt though that many people actually pay any attention to it though.

Disagree. It's posted right on the menu board.

Today I went to Panera for breakfast and the sandwich had the calorie counted posted on the board of 490 calories. I still ordered the sandwich but knew my lunch choice at my work's cafeteria would be on the lighter side.

You'd be surprised how many calories restaurants manage to stuff into salads, soups, chicken entrees and other seemingly "healthy" options.


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Kirkwood wrote:
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Starting Monday, calorie counts will have to be posted at thousands of restaurants, grocery stores and movie theaters, representing a milestone change in how the food industry shares information with the American public. The rule, an oft-forgotten provision of Obamacare, is being pushed over the finish line by a Trump nominee, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who says the labeling requirement is simply about transparency.
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The menu labeling rule, which was finalized in 2014 after repeated delays during the Obama administration, applies to chains with 20 or more locations that sell prepared foods similar to what you might get in a restaurant — a definition that applies to everything from appetizers to beer and wine listed by the glass. Businesses are supposed to post calories for each food on their menu right where a consumer will see it as they decide what to order.


Great rule. Great job Trump FDA!


Great, I didn't know that eating that full slab of ribs with a Pepsi and French Fries, Pop Corn full of butter and salt at the movie theatre would be bad for me. Thanks big brother!

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Kirkwood wrote:
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Starting Monday, calorie counts will have to be posted at thousands of restaurants, grocery stores and movie theaters, representing a milestone change in how the food industry shares information with the American public. The rule, an oft-forgotten provision of Obamacare, is being pushed over the finish line by a Trump nominee, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who says the labeling requirement is simply about transparency.
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The menu labeling rule, which was finalized in 2014 after repeated delays during the Obama administration, applies to chains with 20 or more locations that sell prepared foods similar to what you might get in a restaurant — a definition that applies to everything from appetizers to beer and wine listed by the glass. Businesses are supposed to post calories for each food on their menu right where a consumer will see it as they decide what to order.


Great rule. Great job Trump FDA!


Great, I didn't know that eating that full slab of ribs with a Pepsi and French Fries, Pop Corn full of butter and salt at the movie theatre would be bad for me. Thanks big brother!

Gee, maybe you don't have to look at the info. I will, though!


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Juiced wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
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Starting Monday, calorie counts will have to be posted at thousands of restaurants, grocery stores and movie theaters, representing a milestone change in how the food industry shares information with the American public. The rule, an oft-forgotten provision of Obamacare, is being pushed over the finish line by a Trump nominee, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who says the labeling requirement is simply about transparency.
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The menu labeling rule, which was finalized in 2014 after repeated delays during the Obama administration, applies to chains with 20 or more locations that sell prepared foods similar to what you might get in a restaurant — a definition that applies to everything from appetizers to beer and wine listed by the glass. Businesses are supposed to post calories for each food on their menu right where a consumer will see it as they decide what to order.


Great rule. Great job Trump FDA!


Great, I didn't know that eating that full slab of ribs with a Pepsi and French Fries, Pop Corn full of butter and salt at the movie theatre would be bad for me. Thanks big brother!

Re-write this in bigfan format.


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denisdman wrote:
Dr. Gottlieb is an interesting fellow. They have him on CNBC all the time. He seems like the type of guy that understands the need for reasonable regulation, while helping companies get drugs to market faster.


He's a pawn and a beta-cuck owned by the pharma lobbyists..but who isn't ?


Have you ever seen one of his appearances? I suspect you would be impressed. We need competent individuals in government, and he seems like one of the good ones.

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Kirkwood wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Sure give people more information. That really is a potential good tool. I doubt though that many people actually pay any attention to it though.

Disagree. It's posted right on the menu board.

Today I went to Panera for breakfast and the sandwich had the calorie counted posted on the board of 490 calories. I still ordered the sandwich but knew my lunch choice at my work's cafeteria would be on the lighter side.

You'd be surprised how many calories restaurants manage to stuff into salads, soups, chicken entrees and other seemingly "healthy" options.


I said it is a good tool. My opinion is many people do not use it. Example I know damn well a Big Mac is more fat and calories than a Kale smoothie. If I choose to eat a Big Mac I know that ahead of time. They are trying to aim this at people that either do not care, are poor or are simply not educated enough in other ways to choose correctly.

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The fettuccine alfredo at Portillo's is 2,600 calories. :shock:

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The fettuccine alfredo at Portillo's is 2,600 calories. :shock:


The word in bold should make this not a surprise to you.

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pittmike wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
The fettuccine alfredo at Portillo's is 2,600 calories. :shock:


The word in bold should make this not a surprise to you.


I knew it was high, but Jeez. That's 5 Big Macs.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
pittmike wrote:
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The fettuccine alfredo at Portillo's is 2,600 calories. :shock:


The word in bold should make this not a surprise to you.


I knew it was high, but Jeez. That's 5 Big Macs.


i've gotten this cream of chicken w/ wild rice soup a few times at Mariano's, it's pretty tasty....and oddly enough I felt like the "cream" part wasn't really cream since its sorta thin (the cream soups at Chuck's are solid at room temperature, for example). Last time i made the mistake of looking at the nutrition info though and it was like 320 calories for a 1/2 cup....that's more than a 1/2 cup of Ben & Jerry's ice cream. And yes I realize it's a cream soup, but I was still surprised it was that high


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Pasta, as much as I love it and miss it, is so deadly calorie/carb wise.

If you haven't tried spaghetti squash, give it a shot. It's kind of like hashbrown noodles, but like 1/100th the carbs/calories of pasta. Very tasty.

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Someone suggested to me cauliflower rice to cut carbs. I haven't tried it yet but it is in the freezer.

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pittmike wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
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Sure give people more information. That really is a potential good tool. I doubt though that many people actually pay any attention to it though.

Disagree. It's posted right on the menu board.

Today I went to Panera for breakfast and the sandwich had the calorie counted posted on the board of 490 calories. I still ordered the sandwich but knew my lunch choice at my work's cafeteria would be on the lighter side.

You'd be surprised how many calories restaurants manage to stuff into salads, soups, chicken entrees and other seemingly "healthy" options.


I said it is a good tool. My opinion is many people do not use it. Example I know damn well a Big Mac is more fat and calories than a Kale smoothie. If I choose to eat a Big Mac I know that ahead of time. They are trying to aim this at people that either do not care, are poor or are simply not educated enough in other ways to choose correctly.

They are trying to aim this at all people so they can make an informed decision.

Here are the ingredients for a salad at cheesecake factory:
Grilled Chicken, Fresh Avocado, Mixed Greens, Crisp Tortilla Strips, Carrots, Cilantro and Cashews. Tossed in a Citrus-Honey-Peanut Vinaigrette

Calories....1930


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Having the info is better than not having it. No, it's not going to make someone that wants a BigMac suddenly switch to rice cakes, but maybe there are 2 things under consideration and they go with a 400 calorie choice over a 550.

They are helpful on the drinks too if you are running into a gas station, etc. to grab something. I drink the unsweetened Pure Leaf, so calories aren't a factor, but when you see all the flavors lined up in the cooler and the 'sweet' is 160 calories, and the 'extra sweet' next to it is 240, maybe it influences the choice.


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Kirkwood wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
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Sure give people more information. That really is a potential good tool. I doubt though that many people actually pay any attention to it though.

Disagree. It's posted right on the menu board.

Today I went to Panera for breakfast and the sandwich had the calorie counted posted on the board of 490 calories. I still ordered the sandwich but knew my lunch choice at my work's cafeteria would be on the lighter side.

You'd be surprised how many calories restaurants manage to stuff into salads, soups, chicken entrees and other seemingly "healthy" options.


I said it is a good tool. My opinion is many people do not use it. Example I know damn well a Big Mac is more fat and calories than a Kale smoothie. If I choose to eat a Big Mac I know that ahead of time. They are trying to aim this at people that either do not care, are poor or are simply not educated enough in other ways to choose correctly.

They are trying to aim this at all people so they can make an informed decision.

Here are the ingredients for a salad at cheesecake factory:
Grilled Chicken, Fresh Avocado, Mixed Greens, Crisp Tortilla Strips, Carrots, Cilantro and Cashews. Tossed in a Citrus-Honey-Peanut Vinaigrette

Calories....1930


You know I am not arguing with you right?

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Calories are literally all that matters. The rest of it is junk science from fatties who still want to eat a bunch and lose weight.

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Kirkwood wrote:
They are trying to aim this at all people so they can make an informed decision.

Here are the ingredients for a salad at cheesecake factory:
Grilled Chicken, Fresh Avocado, Mixed Greens, Crisp Tortilla Strips, Carrots, Cilantro and Cashews. Tossed in a Citrus-Honey-Peanut Vinaigrette

Calories....1930
Yeah I don't think MANY people realize just how many calories are packed into some salads. There are a lot of cases where you are actually better off eating a burger than a salad. (If you eliminate the cheese & mayo from the burger and drink water)

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pittmike wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
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Sure give people more information. That really is a potential good tool. I doubt though that many people actually pay any attention to it though.

Disagree. It's posted right on the menu board.

Today I went to Panera for breakfast and the sandwich had the calorie counted posted on the board of 490 calories. I still ordered the sandwich but knew my lunch choice at my work's cafeteria would be on the lighter side.

You'd be surprised how many calories restaurants manage to stuff into salads, soups, chicken entrees and other seemingly "healthy" options.


I said it is a good tool. My opinion is many people do not use it. Example I know damn well a Big Mac is more fat and calories than a Kale smoothie. If I choose to eat a Big Mac I know that ahead of time. They are trying to aim this at people that either do not care, are poor or are simply not educated enough in other ways to choose correctly.

They are trying to aim this at all people so they can make an informed decision.

Here are the ingredients for a salad at cheesecake factory:
Grilled Chicken, Fresh Avocado, Mixed Greens, Crisp Tortilla Strips, Carrots, Cilantro and Cashews. Tossed in a Citrus-Honey-Peanut Vinaigrette

Calories....1930


You know I am not arguing with you right?

I rarely every know what your point is when posting so I did not know this.


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It's shocking that pittmike would ignore information put right in his face in the easiest way possible.

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Kirkwood wrote:
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You know I am not arguing with you right?

I rarely every know what your point is when posting so I did not know this.


I think I must have forgotten really making you angry at me. Anyway, I think it is wonderful but was doubting many people use the wonderful info.

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It's shocking that pittmike would ignore information put right in his face in the easiest way possible.


You should maybe stop taking the easiest way to attack me. What info have I ignored?

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Someone suggested to me cauliflower rice to cut carbs. I haven't tried it yet but it is in the freezer.



It’s not terrible. It’s not rice but it’s a decent substitute. As with all things it what you mix into it that matters as far as taste and health.


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pittmike wrote:
Someone suggested to me cauliflower rice to cut carbs. I haven't tried it yet but it is in the freezer.


Fuck yeah, cauliflower rice is good, good shit.

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