You’re correct about gritty being used to describe white guys. I’d argue it’s not necessarily a complement, as it’s normally a ‘nice’ way of saying a guy isn’t very athletic.

It’s practically a meme when it comes to the Patriots’ receiving core of smallish white guys, when a player like Danny Woodhead was one of the most athletic people in his draft class but talked about like he was getting by on determination alone.

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Ed Cooley is considered one of the best in all of college basketball right now.

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He's never been regarded as a "genius" coach.

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Are you sure? He is certainly considered as much of a 'genius' as anyone in college basketball.

Who are the geniuses in college basketball?

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Rick Pitino. Still
Mark Few.
Bryce Drew.
Bill Self.
Tom Izzo. Still.

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Bryce Drew?

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I'm waiting for Noisewater to chime in with "Bruce Weber".

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John Thompson and John Chaney were not considered "genius" coaches? I always felt they were upper level...

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Something like this taunting incident I definitely avoid the Score trash's take on it. I was curious to hear PTI''s Tony Kornhiser & Michael Wilbon's opinions. Always have a left slant but I still like and highly respect them. Surprisingly they talked strictly about the game and didn't even bring up the incident which was a wise move. They're both big Caitlin Clark fans and have been marveling at her feats all season long.

That's a pretty terrible list but it's mostly just you picking current coaches with national titles and then Mark Few.

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And each of the people on that list (save maybe for (Bryce Drew) have had the "genius" label attached to them and will be in the Hall of Fame. Ed Cooley won't and even you (the dude that mentioned him remember) didn't hit him with the "genius" label. Best you could claim is that he is a "good coach". Which was never the point.

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Most of their credit came from being "mentors" to young black men. And remember it was John Thompson who Terry Boers blamed most for losing 88 Olympics. The Olympics which later led to the Dream Team. Pick any other coach and they win according to Boers.

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Terry Boers isn't exactly a go-to for baskteball knowledge.

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But Brick is? And the larger point is this. John Thompson was never hit with the "genius" label. Nor has any other black coach in the history of college basketball been tabbed with the label.

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An amazingly terrible list but not surprising.

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Tony Dungy should probably get the label for modernizing 70s-era Steelers defense and transforming those concepts into the "Tampa 2". I don't think he's commonly noted as a football genius though.

Kobe should get the savant label. He made some great points in one interview about how subtle physical limitations (hand size in particular) made the game slightly more difficult for him than other more physically gifted players, so he compensated by studying footwork, angles, positioning, etc., to get an edge on everyone else. I think we think of him as just some dude who [athletically] happened to be better than everyone else. He was athletic to be sure but so is everyone else in the NBA. What separated him was hard work (the anti-Ben Simmons) and intelligence.

Rodman should also get credit for intelligence - he did not have the optimal size and strength to do what he eventually became known for. It took a great deal of intelligence. I don't think we equate Rodman with intelligence though.

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Are these white guys really tabbed as "geniuses"? Or is that just a feeling you have about them because they have won a lot of games?

I don't really see the difference between George Raveling and Bill Self. I don't see the difference between Shaka Smart and Mark Few.

And what about Big House Gaines?

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Also, it's a flavor of the month game. If you want to argue that there should be more black head coaches, I might agree. I think there were only 13 this year. But the genius label gets applied when a guy's team is doing good. When you used to coach the Celtics and now you're at Iona, I'm pretty sure you've lost the genius label.

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I always thought that John Wooden was the only one really known as a genius coach

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Well winning has a lot to do with the label. But they aren't the only guys. Of course Bobby Knight was considered a genius. So was Coach K. There have been several others that were ascribed to title. None were black.

When you flip it to college Football then the disparity is even more of a joke.
Same with Pro Football and Pro Basketball too.

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Really? It's almost as if everything these people do is wrong.

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I think you're being too liberal with the genius tag. I agree that it's been applied to Knight. And that's one of the rare cases where it's probably deserved. I don't think anyone thinks Krzyzewski is a genius though. Maybe Coach K himself. He was a winning coach at a traditional program. He's like Bill Self.

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Nah he just had the right boosters with the deepest pockets

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For years Coach K's assistants were provided with some of the best college jobs in the country simply because HE was thought to be a "genius'. So was Rick Pitino's assistants. And Tom Izzo's assistants. And Dean Smith's assistants. And Bobby Knight's assistants.

There has never been a black coach ever in college basketball that could say the same thing.

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To basketball’s credit, I don’t know that the word ‘genius’ is thrown around to coaches like it is in football.

Football people seem to think their sport is so complex that having success at any part of the game makes the person managing that part of the game incredibly smart.

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I'll admit, I never heard of Caitlin Clark before this weekend.

I couldn't name a player in WNCAAB. I knew some of the coaches.

That won't change

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