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as douglas adams pointed out, it's a "smart jog" as opposed to a "real climb" which would be mt. kilimanjaro. although "into thin air" remains the gold standard of everest stories.


I read Into Thin Air around the same time I read The Perfect Storm. They're similar books, but Into Thin Air was so much better. I never got around to reading another book by Jon Krakauer, but probably should do so.

Into the Wild, Under the Banner of Heaven, and Where Men Win Glory are better than Into Thin Air, which was outstanding


Based on your recommendation, I had a look at those books. I might give them a shot, but murder and war aren't high on my list for leisure reading.

Into the Wild, then. One of my favorites. Also, I bought a Kindle specifically to read The Voyage of the Narwhal. Waiting for the Springsteen book through inter-library loan.


Wow. How much do Kindles go for these days?

$200 for a 32 gig one. Was my Fathers Day gift. You can get one for $100, though.

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Warren Newson wrote:
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as douglas adams pointed out, it's a "smart jog" as opposed to a "real climb" which would be mt. kilimanjaro. although "into thin air" remains the gold standard of everest stories.


I read Into Thin Air around the same time I read The Perfect Storm. They're similar books, but Into Thin Air was so much better. I never got around to reading another book by Jon Krakauer, but probably should do so.


i meant to circle back to this; i was utterly bored by "the perfect storm" as intrigued as i was about the story. it was just bland most of the time. the movie was awful.

in a somewhat similar vein, "devil in the white city" is very dry at parts and i thought it would be a page turner. obviously most of the intrigue came from the H.H. Holmes parts. the world's fair planning and stuff was dull.


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as douglas adams pointed out, it's a "smart jog" as opposed to a "real climb" which would be mt. kilimanjaro. although "into thin air" remains the gold standard of everest stories.


I read Into Thin Air around the same time I read The Perfect Storm. They're similar books, but Into Thin Air was so much better. I never got around to reading another book by Jon Krakauer, but probably should do so.


i meant to circle back to this; i was utterly bored by "the perfect storm" as intrigued as i was about the story. it was just bland most of the time. the movie was awful.

in a somewhat similar vein, "devil in the white city" is very dry at parts and i thought it would be a page turner. obviously most of the intrigue came from the H.H. Holmes parts. the world's fair planning and stuff was dull.

His book about the US diplomat to Nazi Germany was fantastic

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as douglas adams pointed out, it's a "smart jog" as opposed to a "real climb" which would be mt. kilimanjaro. although "into thin air" remains the gold standard of everest stories.


I read Into Thin Air around the same time I read The Perfect Storm. They're similar books, but Into Thin Air was so much better. I never got around to reading another book by Jon Krakauer, but probably should do so.


i meant to circle back to this; i was utterly bored by "the perfect storm" as intrigued as i was about the story. it was just bland most of the time. the movie was awful.

in a somewhat similar vein, "devil in the white city" is very dry at parts and i thought it would be a page turner. obviously most of the intrigue came from the H.H. Holmes parts. the world's fair planning and stuff was dull.

His book about the US diplomat to Nazi Germany was fantastic


Dead Wake, about the sinking of the Lusitania, was very good.


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It's somewhat ironic that we can't get a good discussion going in the "Books" thread to save our lives, but we’ve fallen ass backwards into one in this random thread.


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El Tommo wrote:
W_Z wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
W_Z wrote:
as douglas adams pointed out, it's a "smart jog" as opposed to a "real climb" which would be mt. kilimanjaro. although "into thin air" remains the gold standard of everest stories.


I read Into Thin Air around the same time I read The Perfect Storm. They're similar books, but Into Thin Air was so much better. I never got around to reading another book by Jon Krakauer, but probably should do so.


i meant to circle back to this; i was utterly bored by "the perfect storm" as intrigued as i was about the story. it was just bland most of the time. the movie was awful.

in a somewhat similar vein, "devil in the white city" is very dry at parts and i thought it would be a page turner. obviously most of the intrigue came from the H.H. Holmes parts. the world's fair planning and stuff was dull.

His book about the US diplomat to Nazi Germany was fantastic


In the Garden of Beasts by Erik Larsen


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W_Z wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
W_Z wrote:
as douglas adams pointed out, it's a "smart jog" as opposed to a "real climb" which would be mt. kilimanjaro. although "into thin air" remains the gold standard of everest stories.


I read Into Thin Air around the same time I read The Perfect Storm. They're similar books, but Into Thin Air was so much better. I never got around to reading another book by Jon Krakauer, but probably should do so.


i meant to circle back to this; i was utterly bored by "the perfect storm" as intrigued as i was about the story. it was just bland most of the time. the movie was awful.

in a somewhat similar vein, "devil in the white city" is very dry at parts and i thought it would be a page turner. obviously most of the intrigue came from the H.H. Holmes parts. the world's fair planning and stuff was dull.


Yeah, The Perfect Storm should have been better. I remember falling asleep while reading it. I'm also annoyed with Junger for giving the phrase "The Perfect Storm" a huge lift in the American lexicon. You saw it everywhere for a while.

I also think The Devil in the White City is over loved. However, The Splendid and the Vile, also by Larson, is pretty damn good.


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W_Z wrote:
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W_Z wrote:
as douglas adams pointed out, it's a "smart jog" as opposed to a "real climb" which would be mt. kilimanjaro. although "into thin air" remains the gold standard of everest stories.


I read Into Thin Air around the same time I read The Perfect Storm. They're similar books, but Into Thin Air was so much better. I never got around to reading another book by Jon Krakauer, but probably should do so.


i meant to circle back to this; i was utterly bored by "the perfect storm" as intrigued as i was about the story. it was just bland most of the time. the movie was awful.

in a somewhat similar vein, "devil in the white city" is very dry at parts and i thought it would be a page turner. obviously most of the intrigue came from the H.H. Holmes parts. the world's fair planning and stuff was dull.


Yeah, The Perfect Storm should have been better. I remember falling asleep while reading it. I'm also annoyed with Junger for giving the phrase "The Perfect Storm" a huge lift in the American lexicon. You saw it everywhere for a while.

I also think The Devil in the White City is over loved. However, The Splendid and the Vile, also by Larson, is pretty damn good.

The Perfect Storm was a ballyhooed gimmick. Then George Clooney the rugged fisherman, buried it. Almost as bad a casting as Chris Rock in Fargo.

I really enjoyed Devil in the White City. Yeah, it was Cormac McCarthy-ish and you have to be in the right mood for that goofy shit.

Red Badge of Courage is both underrated and overrated. It's one of only two books I've read that has a sense of authenticity about the Civil War. Killer Angels is the other one.


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