It is currently Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:12 am

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » SHOWS & MEDIA » OTHER CHICAGO SPORTS MEDIA

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 3
  [ 89 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
Juice's Lecture Notes
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 24128
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.

So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?
Top
 Profile  
 
Darkside
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:29 am
Posts: 66373
Location: Darkside Estates
pizza_Place: A cat got an online degree.
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.

So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?

Maybe it's less ratings and more 0eople being sick of his bullshit diva attitude.

_________________
"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014
bigfan wrote:
Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.
Top
 Profile  
 
badrogue17
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 39190
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
rogers park bryan wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Spiegel will be fine as he is still a decent sports talker who hasn't alienated half the city. He'll land somewhere in market, unlike Goff.

He's not that good. Not really better than Goff at all.

He’s miles better than Goff.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.
Top
 Profile  
 
Juice's Lecture Notes
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 24128
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Darkside wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.

So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?


Maybe it's less ratings and more 0eople being sick of his bullshit diva attitude.


That's a possibility but he would have to be a MON-U-MENTAL douche in order to justify ending his run at the station and eating his contract over taking the sustained ratings success he has shown, especially when you just had to effectively fire another guy because his ratings sucked in drive time.

Again, possible, but I think unlikely. I just think he had enough good will from his ratings success alone to withstand a shakeup, even of this magnitude.
Top
 Profile  
 
Darkside
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:29 am
Posts: 66373
Location: Darkside Estates
pizza_Place: A cat got an online degree.
Apparently he didn't.

_________________
"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014
bigfan wrote:
Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.
Top
 Profile  
 
Brick
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 95057
Location: To the left of my post
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.
I'm not sure that the Cubs World Series run is a good indicator of the ratings as a whole. It looks like everyone got massive ratings.


Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?
4 partners. Bad attitudes. Missing work because of the job he cares more about.

So, if Bernstein and McKnight do decent in the ratings will you be treating them the same way? I mean, B&G were literally #1(tied) in there timeslot and you were bashing them constantly about how bad it was.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!
Top
 Profile  
 
Juice's Lecture Notes
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 24128
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.
I'm not sure that the Cubs World Series run is a good indicator of the ratings as a whole. It looks like everyone got massive ratings.


Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?
4 partners. Bad attitudes. Missing work because of the job he cares more about.

So, if Bernstein and McKnight do decent in the ratings will you be treating them the same way? I mean, B&G were literally #1(tied) in there timeslot and you were bashing them constantly about how bad it was.


Do you have any actual evidence to substantiate your claim that Spiegel's "results were bad before Parkins saved him"? I posted ratings a year apart highlighting his success. What do you have?
Top
 Profile  
 
billypootons
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 pm
Posts: 11360
pizza_Place: Depends
if you have 22 months of paper left you can take the high road

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html
Top
 Profile  
 
Brick
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 95057
Location: To the left of my post
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.
I'm not sure that the Cubs World Series run is a good indicator of the ratings as a whole. It looks like everyone got massive ratings.


Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?
4 partners. Bad attitudes. Missing work because of the job he cares more about.

So, if Bernstein and McKnight do decent in the ratings will you be treating them the same way? I mean, B&G were literally #1(tied) in there timeslot and you were bashing them constantly about how bad it was.


Do you have any actual evidence to substantiate your claim that Spiegel's "results were bad before Parkins saved him"? I posted ratings a year apart highlighting his success. What do you have?

He and Goff did ok. Better?

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!
Top
 Profile  
 
DAC
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:28 pm
Posts: 3910
Location: Tinley Park
pizza_Place: zzzzzz
badrogue17 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Spiegel will be fine as he is still a decent sports talker who hasn't alienated half the city. He'll land somewhere in market, unlike Goff.

He's not that good. Not really better than Goff at all.

He’s miles better than Goff.


Exactly. While Spiegs has some bag/diva-tendencies, he is a professional talk show unlike Goff who's a hack.

_________________
Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.
Top
 Profile  
 
312player
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:15 am
Posts: 27591
pizza_Place: nick n vito's
rogers park bryan wrote:
Image



:lol:

_________________
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.
Top
 Profile  
 
Franky T
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:04 pm
Posts: 10456
pizza_Place: world famous
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.
I'm not sure that the Cubs World Series run is a good indicator of the ratings as a whole. It looks like everyone got massive ratings.


Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?
4 partners. Bad attitudes. Missing work because of the job he cares more about.

So, if Bernstein and McKnight do decent in the ratings will you be treating them the same way? I mean, B&G were literally #1(tied) in there timeslot and you were bashing them constantly about how bad it was.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you poo-poo the effect of a Cubs bump while celebrating the early ratings of B&G?

_________________
Nas wrote:
We lose a lot of rights when we look the other way when it doesn't affect our lives or it isn't a cause we agree with.
Top
 Profile  
 
Tad Queasy
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:50 am
Posts: 11302
Location: Schaumburg
pizza_Place: Palermo's
billypootons wrote:
if you have 22 months of paper left you can take the high road

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html


Chicago Tribune wrote:
In Spiegel’s new “bullpen” role, he said, “I will be available to fill in on any and all shows including evenings.” He’ll also write baseball columns for the website and possibly make other baseball-related contributions. “I have a bunch of ideas percolating for stuff that I want to do.”


"Including evenings."

Interesting...
Top
 Profile  
 
Curious Hair
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 57823
Location: Kilfish, Ill.
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
They'd be wise to use Spiegel a lot during baseball season and then put him on the shelf.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.
Top
 Profile  
 
DAC
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:28 pm
Posts: 3910
Location: Tinley Park
pizza_Place: zzzzzz
Curious Hair wrote:
They'd be wise to use Spiegel a lot during baseball season and then put him on the shelf.


Agreed. Spiegs was really good the last few weeks talking about baseball with Parkins.

_________________
Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be.
Top
 Profile  
 
Curious Hair
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 57823
Location: Kilfish, Ill.
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
I mentioned him getting the 10-mid scraps in another thread, but that would really make good sense when the Cubs have night games. Extended postgame, essentially.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.
Top
 Profile  
 
312player
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:15 am
Posts: 27591
pizza_Place: nick n vito's
Tad Queasy wrote:
billypootons wrote:
if you have 22 months of paper left you can take the high road

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html


Chicago Tribune wrote:
In Spiegel’s new “bullpen” role, he said, “I will be available to fill in on any and all shows including evenings.” He’ll also write baseball columns for the website and possibly make other baseball-related contributions. “I have a bunch of ideas percolating for stuff that I want to do.”


"Including evenings."

Interesting...



U thinkin he wants Larry's part time gig?

_________________
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.
Top
 Profile  
 
McDude
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:41 am
Posts: 680
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
badrogue17 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Spiegel will be fine as he is still a decent sports talker who hasn't alienated half the city. He'll land somewhere in market, unlike Goff.

He's not that good. Not really better than Goff at all.

He’s miles better than Goff.


Without question
Top
 Profile  
 
Brick
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 95057
Location: To the left of my post
Franky T wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Also, it should be pointed out that he took a lot of time off for the job he clearly liked more. He quit doing a baseball show on the weekends he supposedly was good at because of it. He had to call in sick multiple times from voice issues directly relating to his other job.

Now, he was "allowed" to do that but when you have a job like his those kind of things make you less likely to survive big shakeups.


The guy weathered multiple shakeups, and his performance was trending upwards through multiple partners, AND he just got fresh paper. A loyal radio veteran with ratings success should certainly weather a storm brought on by the declining ratings of others. So what he might be prickly and a bit of a diva about his singing? He had results where it mattered, until those things apparently stopped mattering.

Now I don't know what his deal is like, maybe he refused to work with Bernstein in middays, and they're doing him a solid instead of firing him. If we get wind of that, I will downgrade Spiegel's treatment from "hosed" to "kinda shitty, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get by". However, absent that, the guy had all the things you supposedly need to be a daypart mainstay, and they forced him out for Connor McDoink.

His results were bad before Parkins saved him.


That's not true. In November of 2016, Spiegel & Goff were 1st in middays in the key demo.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2016/11/a-huge ... -stations/

And in the Fall books of 2015 S&G were 2nd in the key demo with a 5.1 and easily beating the WMVP competition, who had a 3.8.

http://sportsradiopd.com/2015/12/sports ... e-country/

Spiegel was a ratings success (though not as dominant) years before Parkins arrived at the station.
I'm not sure that the Cubs World Series run is a good indicator of the ratings as a whole. It looks like everyone got massive ratings.


Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
So, BRick, if Spiegel performed well in the ratings before Parkins' arrival, and performed even better with Parkins, what exactly justifies Spiegel's ouster?
4 partners. Bad attitudes. Missing work because of the job he cares more about.

So, if Bernstein and McKnight do decent in the ratings will you be treating them the same way? I mean, B&G were literally #1(tied) in there timeslot and you were bashing them constantly about how bad it was.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you poo-poo the effect of a Cubs bump while celebrating the early ratings of B&G?

Not during the title run.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!
Top
 Profile  
 
Ogie Oglethorpe
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:24 pm
Posts: 17465
pizza_Place: Pequods
Curious Hair wrote:
I mentioned him getting the 10-mid scraps in another thread, but that would really make good sense when the Cubs have night games. Extended postgame, essentially.

so Julie gets bumped for another cis white male :lol:

_________________
“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson
Top
 Profile  
 
Douchebag
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm
Posts: 44247
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
I mentioned him getting the 10-mid scraps in another thread, but that would really make good sense when the Cubs have night games. Extended postgame, essentially.

so Julie gets bumped for another cis white male :lol:

If they were smart they would launch Zaidman and make Spiegs their full-time Cubs pre & post host, and also have him work after the postgame show to build a bridge to Grobber.

_________________
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?
Top
 Profile  
 
badrogue17
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 39190
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Douchebag wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
I mentioned him getting the 10-mid scraps in another thread, but that would really make good sense when the Cubs have night games. Extended postgame, essentially.

so Julie gets bumped for another cis white male :lol:

If they were smart they would launch Zaidman and make Spiegs their full-time Cubs pre & post host, and also have him work after the postgame show to build a bridge to Grobber.

This might by your best post ever. Congrats.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.
Top
 Profile  
 
Curious Hair
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 57823
Location: Kilfish, Ill.
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
I mentioned him getting the 10-mid scraps in another thread, but that would really make good sense when the Cubs have night games. Extended postgame, essentially.

so Julie gets bumped for another cis white male :lol:


Image
Heard that someone wants to become Julie DiCaro!

Image
The someone is Tributosaurus

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.
Top
 Profile  
 
Brick
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 95057
Location: To the left of my post
Douchebag wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
I mentioned him getting the 10-mid scraps in another thread, but that would really make good sense when the Cubs have night games. Extended postgame, essentially.

so Julie gets bumped for another cis white male :lol:

If they were smart they would launch Zaidman and make Spiegs their full-time Cubs pre & post host, and also have him work after the postgame show to build a bridge to Grobber.

They don't get to pick their schedule. No good for a rock star.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!
Top
 Profile  
 
jamfan40
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:44 am
Posts: 40
pizza_Place: Pequod's
Is there anything interesting here behind the paywall?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html
Top
 Profile  
 
HawaiiYou
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24701
pizza_Place: It's gone
jamfan40 wrote:
Is there anything interesting here behind the paywall?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html


so he gets the same paycheck to do fill in spots?
Top
 Profile  
 
badrogue17
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 39190
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
billypootons wrote:
if you have 22 months of paper left you can take the high road

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html

Thats how you handle yourself like a professional not a whiny bitch like Goff.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.
Top
 Profile  
 
jamfan40
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:30 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:44 am
Posts: 40
pizza_Place: Pequod's
badrogue17 wrote:
billypootons wrote:
if you have 22 months of paper left you can take the high road

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html

Thats how you handle yourself like a professional not a whiny bitch like Goff.

I know some don't like him on here but Matt has grown on me a ton. Glad he went out classy and look forward to hearing him fill-in. Also glad he's financially set for the next 2 years.
Top
 Profile  
 
Peoria Matt
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 22704
pizza_Place: A few...
HawaiiYou wrote:
jamfan40 wrote:
Is there anything interesting here behind the paywall?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html


so he gets the same paycheck to do fill in spots?


Yes.
Top
 Profile  
 
billypootons
 Post subject: Re: Spiegel got hosed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 pm
Posts: 11360
pizza_Place: Depends
jamfan40 wrote:
Is there anything interesting here behind the paywall?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/br ... story.html


Right click, open incognito window... Pay wall beaten
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 3
  [ 89 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Board index » SHOWS & MEDIA » OTHER CHICAGO SPORTS MEDIA

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group