I would contend Love and Fields have similar talent around them. In both head to head games and full year stats, Love is far ahead of Fields. And without a doubt, the Bears had the better D especially in the second half of the season.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Yep. Teams with average to below average skill players whose play is elevated due to the QB:

Chefs
Texans
Rams
Bills

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Bucs
Browns

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[quote="veganfan21"]Yep. Teams with average to below average skill players whose play is elevated due to the QB:

Chefs No question. Mahomes is truly a generational quarterback and a terrific leader who raises the performance of those following his lead.
Texans Slight improvement
Rams Wrong
Bills Slight improvement

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I watch the every throw videos and see a Mahomes clone

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Keyshawn Johnson quite obviously does not.

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Texans “slight improvement”?? They went from 3-13-1 to 10-7 with a playoff win. Do you watch the NFL at all?

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“How do you get to be president and you’re stupid?” Donald J Trump - 4/10/25
When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus. - Turkish Proverb

I logged in to make almost exactly the same comment.

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Keyshawn Johnson attributed it to coaching almost as much as he did to QB play

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Bucs? They have Evans and Godwin.

Should the Bears go after Baker?

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Not a mult.

woof, take a break Hawk-A-Roo

You think the Bucs make the playoffs with Kyle Trask leading the way?

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Reports are Bo Nix looks awful at the Senior Bowl. He's also 40.

He's probably going to break out in the NFL and the bears will be in back again

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

The Texans did more than simply simply drafting a quarterback. They had invested in major upgrades to their offensive line. The Bear's amde a four game improvement themselves and could have easily matched the Texans record with a little luck.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Remarkable. All that shows is that you both are hilarious in your assessment.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Should the Bears go after Baker?

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Not a mult.

Lot of talk about Baker and much of it is deserved. What's not being said is all he did was revert to the "good Baker" he was during some of his Cleveland days. His QBR this year is tied for second best after his 2020 year.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Yup - and with two VERY above average receivers.

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Not a mult.

So don't confuse me with the dumbass hawk mult. I didn't include the bucs in my list because I consider Goodwin and Evans to be good players, much better than what the other teams on my list have.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

No, I am not lumping you in - just trying to prove my point to Juiced.

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Not a mult.

no , i'm thinking vegan might be The Hawk. you're on to something.

It would explain a lot.

ESPN just featured him.

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2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins

The Hawk= America imo

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

No, they should draft Williams. Better question would be should the Bears go after Evans.

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This is a question a team asks when they’re not in position to improve their QB thru the draft.


There’s no reason for the Bears to pay a guy like Mayfield a huge long term contract that cripples them financially in other areas when they can draft a guy with higher potential that doesn’t require a max deal until several years down the road.


People need to stop overthinking this.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

I’d rather the Bears spend their free agent money on the defense and resign Johnson and bring in a guy like Brian Burns at DE.. build the offense thru the draft and let them grow together. Evans is getting old and would seem to be a better fit for a team looking to win now that is just missing one or two pieces.


Draft Williams/Maye.. draft a WR at 9, trade Fields to recoup some picks (like a 2nd) and draft the best Center available.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

this has to be the most logical play. easy to overthink all of this when youre looking at stats too. but we, as fans who watch this shit on TV... this is what we should be doing. Fields should be traded at 12:00am March 13.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Fuck Baker Mayfield. But it isn't "overthinking" to explore getting a haul. That's just thinking and the draft is 3 months away. I mean, good for you it's a slam dunk the moment the regular season ended. I respect that.

Thank you.

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Not a mult.