Let's talk about Fields winning % as a starter. He doesn't even slay bums

You sound like Dan Bernstein. No one should ever go Dan Bernstein.

The first reporter essentially asked him if he was a pussy. Was he prepared? Absolutely. Is he a phony? Not at all. As apparently the only person who has consumed his podcasts and interviews, we saw who he is. He's confident and respectful at the same time. There is this intensity that he tries to hide or mask, but everything else is the same.

He interviewed with a female reporter after leaving OU. It was raw. I'm confident his team didn't want him to say what he did. His decision to go to USC was his. I'm not sure where his father wanted him to go, but he talks about standing up to his dad and even cursing at him for the first time in his life. He still had the same tone in that interview.

One criticism I have of him is that he goes out of his way to look out for his teammates. There are sharks in the NFL; that could turn out bad. I'm sure he has his father and others protecting him from the sharks, but he needs to learn he doesn't have to share his light or endorsements.

Here's an interview he gave PFT today:

https://youtu.be/j9cTmGclalU?si=v1XqCuhzYpohkm7R

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Lots of people horny for Caleb. I dunno, man, today seemed like an act. Especially with Haugh cumming in his pants over him.

I think 5 years ago he tweeted Jordan was the GOAT over LeBron because it's about championships. It's possible he's known he was going to be a Bear back then.

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Because he said "yeah" after every question he was asked.

Are you a pussy?

Yeah, I'm not.

Pretty sure Jay Cutler and Cade McNown were the most hated QBs in town based on their personalities in the last 24 years or so. I don't think Williams may reach that level but he does appear to have some smugness, which is fine as long as it doesn't stand in the way of him accepting criticism of his play from coaches.

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You put forward the claim that Caleb is bad only because you want to retain the services of the 42nd best fourth quarter QB. You have to first explain why you'd want to retain such trash. You can't explain it though so that's why you resort to casting aspersions on Williams. Very Bernsteinian/Holmsian/Rahimian of you. They would be proud.

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Fields will be the better pro and even if he isn't, then it's dumb to waste a #1 overall for a kid that won't be a star. Which this kid will not be. You seem to think that it's a great thing as long as he's better than Fields, but the only way that happens is if Fields sucks.

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Drafting Williams is going to get Poles fired

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You're conflating these issues. Again, the numbers say Fields is barely playing at a replacement level, meaning he's a net negative overall. In the fourth quarter, he's absolutely garbage. We've been over this and you, just like the rest of the cult, refuse to acknowledge the numbers. Instead you just assert he's good or that he's a star with upside because he has cool highlights on YouTube. That's the extent of your case for Fields. Sad indeed.

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Why continue to respond to him? He's a Fields Cultist who doesn't watch football. His posts aren't based on him watching games; they're based on him combing the internet for negative opinions that others have that he wants someone to respond to. Not because he's trying to evaluate C-Will but because he's looking to annoy out of bitterness. There's no reason to take seriously whatever he or Hussra are doing.

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Fair point and understood, but it is his thread

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There may have been some earlier hope that he would offer more, but that clearly isn't the case. He's been doing the same thing for months now. You know what it is. At least Hussra brings some creativity with his posts.

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I'm not sure what Hussra is trying to say. He seems to be on some Zapruder mission to ascertain Caleb's true height. I just want some genuine discussion on whether this guy can play or not. After 5-6 years of QBs who can't play, I think we know what constitutes red flags:

Cutting the field in half to make things easier on the QB
Needing to see things faster
When the QB feels overloaded because of "information and data," including data on coverages you can exploit to gain more yards


If we see any of that from Caleb or whomever next year, I guess it just means he's a bust, based on past experience.

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If I hear, "He has great command of the huddle" or any bullshit like that, I'll know he's sucking in camp. If players and coaches are talking about the plays he's making, I'll know he's playing well.

Edit: Rich Eisen says he looks Aaron Rodgers height and has hands as big as Russell Wilson's. I'm not sure if they had sex afterwards.

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I watch enough to know that Fields is nowhere near as bad as you and others keep professing that he is. If he were then there is no way that he would have as much support around the NFL as he has. That doesn't happen for players that are bums. In any sport

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Because I know that numbers are "subjectively" viewed around here. As Williams numbers against better teams happens to be. Strangely enough I've been told that his numbers against better competition "doesn't matter" yet Fields numbers in the 4th does. Does that make sense to you? Because it sure as hell doesn't to me. If Caleb Williams cannot play well against anyone besides scrub ass teams in college, what makes you believe that he will be able to play well against anyone, (scrub or not) in the NFL? If you don't believe that this is a LEGITIMATE POINT to make then you don't know much about football or any other sport for that matter.

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"SOME" SMUGNESS?? What an understatement of what this bum is all about. If they draft this phony, I wonder how long before his dopey "FANS" start whipping themselves as their punishment for being so STUPID??Are we going to hear defense for him and for how long will it continue?

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I trust my eyes. When just about everyone in Chicago thought Fields would be a superstar, I saw something different. I hoped I was wrong, but I didn't waver just because the majority of people STRONGLY disagreed. I shared the story of how Hood went on his show last year and blasted me because I was frequently critical of Fields on Sundays. Now he and his partner are saying what I was saying 2+ years ago. I will live with me being wrong about something because of my evaluation. I'm not betting anything on players or experts who are wrong most of the time. I was wrong about Caleb Williams because I listened to bullshit reports from other. Never again.

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And I trust mine. And what I "see" is one of the most physically gifted QBs in the league and a player that has had the misfortune of playing alongside some of the worst offensive talent and coaching in the league. And that isn't only what I "see", but it's also what MANY an NFL "expert" sees and says as well.
And what I "see" in Caleb Williams isn't that. I see an undersized QB with average athleticism and a prima Donna attitude to boot. "History" says that those kind of guys don't fare well in sports. Particularly the NFL. Thus if you have a chance to trade the pick, you should do so before you draft this kid, he busts and then the future of the franchise is torpedoed

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The height thing with Williams is dumb. He’s roughly as tall as CJ Stroud who played just fine last year in the NFL..

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

LTG's idea of good quarterbacking:

https://youtu.be/CCOtRY_KqrU?si=lFqXxRTd-TGqO4Kn

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In 8 days Justin Fields should be on another team.

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My Quarterback!

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Chris Simms seems to have a decent projection record: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/ ... o/htmlview



Hit on Stroud vs Young. That was a grand slam projection for him.

Hit on Jackson and Allen being better than other highly regarded prospects.

Absolutely crushed it in this 2021 pre draft analysis of Fields' flaws. What he said back then is just as valid as it is now. https://youtu.be/4O113VPgO_c?si=6MmCzqjVfJrNGNoH

The fields analysis starts around 2:00


So he came out this week and said Williams is a no doubt #1 pick. That's encouraging I guess. He said Daniels is his no # 2 over Maye.

https://youtu.be/oAbFFiqhaHI?si=FEMRoCKs_nHVl32p

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Florio spitting jewels at the beginning of the video. Few do independent evaluations of these players. IIRC, Simms was all in on Wilson. Of course, no one is going to be perfect.

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He was wrong on that yes. But in the big picture he's been right on a lot. Want to say he graded Mahomes #1 as well in 2017.

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I'm fine with what he does. Zach Wilson does have all of the tools, but he's also a huge tool. That impacts a lot on the field.

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