Yes, you have to move on from Poles. Strike 1: Keeping Flus, Strike 2: Hiring S.Waldron, Strike 3: No OL/DL stability.

Building from the outside in was a terrible strategy. You built your house out of sticks, while others (DET) build their house out of stone.

Poles:

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Five years for the guy who had been defensive coordinator of league-average Colts teams for four years? What are these people thinking?!?

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Yes, because we have had so many QB's "show up" over the last 40years I have been watching the Bears.

I swear you anti-Caleb guys are all trolling from a cheese shop in Wisconsin.

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The Bears ONLY Super Bowl victory occurred as a result of building the team this way. Not that you'd actually know this. The Bears had everything in place to win before McMahon ever arrived. Rock star RB and a very good defense that later became a great defense.

There were quite a few other teams that have won subscribing to this model as well.

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That was 39yrs ago! You can't be serious with this take. Bears havn't had three winning seasons since Ditka and you think this is a good strategy for building a team?

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And at least 3 times since then they have "done it your way" only to strike out because they believed that they had the "Generational Talent" at QB. Cutler. Mitch. And now Caleb.
In fact the last time the Bears reached a Super Bowl in 06 they did it my way. Not yours.

And you are so hypocritical that in one breath you claim that "Generational Talent" at QB is the key, yet in another you claimthat it's all about "coaching".

The facts are this. The 2 best teams in the Bears division do not have "Generational Talents" at QB. Yet they still are 2 of the top teams in the NFL nonetheless.

Jordan Love isn't a top 10 QB either yet the Packers are right there as well.

It's clear from looking at what these 3 teams were able to accomplish without "All Time Greats" manning the QB position and gauge what the Bears should have done.

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Packers have a significantly different approach to roster construction than the Bears.

It is actually quite sobering when you look at it, GM's giving away draft picks has a lot to do with it, but the past two GM's have consistently failed to address the offensive line.
 
Pack does not use first round picks on WR's, seem to know they can them in the second round.

Pack regularly uses draft picks on lineman, they have drafted 4 lineman in the first round in the last 5 years, to the Bears one, and 14 in the first five rounds as opposed to the Bears 7.

The entire Packers offensive line and front seven on defense were drafted by the team, the Bears have two FA starting on the O line and only two of the starting front seven on D are draft picks with one UDFA.

When Poles took over he could have used draft picks to rebuild, but decided to stock up on DB's and you are seeing the disasterous results, time to cut bait on him now and bring in a guy that can identify and develop lineman.

Making sweeping conclusion's after 13 games ksnt rationale dumb ass. Were you out on Peyton Manning after 13 games? You must remember you were only 59 back then and probably trans. Tell the caretaker's to stop spiking your noon lemonade with crack you dumb bitch.

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Manning had it figured out after 11 games. 5 games, 10 TDs and a 92 passer rating.

I mean look he’s the worst quarterback currently starting games in the NFL and it’s really not close. That’s not great.

U are a fucking liar.

Williams has 5 int's compared to 28 for Manning

William's has 87.8 passer rating compared to 71.2.

William's has 62% completion percentage compared to 56.

Go back to your nap grandpa. Your worse then lgbtq time guy.

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1998 Peyton Manning Weeks 12-16: 62% CMP%, 257 YDS/G, 10 TD 6 INT, 90.0 Rating
2024 Caleb Williams Weeks 11-14: 65% CMP%, 240 YDS/G, 7 TD 0 INT, 102.1 Rating

I dont need help cocksucker. Go back to your pretend deposition in front of your mirror you retard.

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I don't care about you.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Manning had it figured out after 11 games. Was I wrong? 26 years ago when QBs were football players. You could hit them high, low, and sliding was in a different sport. Listen, the last thing I want to do is make comparisons to Peyton Manning. But the gay guy brought it up.

And remember. The 6 consecutive games without an int streak was so important that in order for Caleb Williams to break it he had to beat out the "immortal" Charlie Batch

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The only thing which Caleb Williams has "figured out" is how to pad his stats in games in which the Bears are being blown out.

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Keep running away bitch from the stat's and how you manipolated them because you didn't want to admit you were wrong. Caller Bob bitch

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Well, you said after 11 games, and then specifically mentioned Peyton's performance over the last 5 games of his rookie season, to which I compared the last 4 games (including his 11th game in the league) of Caleb's rookie season, it seems like an apt comparison.

If Peyton's performance in those last 5 games when viewed relative to his performance earlier in the season, is indicative that he "figured it out", shouldn't the same also hold true for Caleb Williams?

1998 Peyton Manning Weeks 1-11: 55% CMP%, 229 YDS/G, 15 TD 20 INT, 64.6 Rating
2024 Caleb Williams Weeks 1-10: 61% CMP%, 201 YDS/G, 9 TD 5 INT, 82.3 Rating

So both quarterbacks seemed to find some increased level of performance late in their rookie seasons. We'll see if Caleb can sustain his output as the season comes to a close, but if Manning's performance to end his rookie campaign is evidence he figured something out because it is so wildly different from his performance earlier in the season, seems like the same can be said of Caleb.

And this can all be noted without saying that Caleb Williams is Peyton Manning, but rather that repeated positive performances to end a season filled with ups and downs is a promising trend in a young QB.

wtf was positive about the San Francisco game

Caleb hasn't figured it out yet. That was perfectly obvious yesterday. Just when you think he might, he shits all over himself. Peyton Manning figured it out in his first year under much more violent conditions. I hope Caleb does too. He's got 4 games to show he isn't the #4 rookie QB.

That he didn't quit when his offensive line let 4 of 5 first half drives end with a sack and then finished the game throwing for multiple touchdowns with a 73% completion rate?

Peyton Manning finished his rookie season 1-4 after "figuring it out".

wow incredible job what was the final score again in this close fought contest???

Even in your decrepit advanced retarded state you have power to move goalpost's. This isnt about figuring it out dumb ass this is about making grand conclusion's after 12 game's. If you made conclusion's after rookie season's you should have written of manning who was less accurate, had a worse passer rating and throrw more interception's then William's. But you write of William's and not Manning. This prove's your garbage. Here's a life tip; stop seling your reading glasse's for crack. It shows.

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The "above average defense" allowed like 35 points or something. What's your point?

Whoa so I’m sure the Bears offense must have been great right? How many yards did they get in the first half???

Keep.in mind that "Caddyshack" believes that the smart play is to consistently bash a defense that ranked 9th Best in ppg and allowed its first 30 point Game on defense yesterday. Mind you said 30 point allowance occurred ONLY after they fired the "defensive mastermind" of said defense. A dude he repeatedly called for to be shitcanned.
You can't make this shit up.

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